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I make a few comics.
Grouchobeer posts on some of them, stop flooding.
I'm not trying to flood.
Besides If I am then he is.
1. 3 Nov 2006 20:20 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
Diddums.
2. 3 Nov 2006 20:24 | CheGuevara
CheGuevara
What?
3. 3 Nov 2006 20:25 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
1. Grouchobeer is flooding but people like his comic's, So then it's not flooding, it's just alot of good comics on 1 or 2 pages, if grouchobeer votes 0 for your comic then jingo will vote 0 then other people.
4. 3 Nov 2006 20:27 | richard
richard
I try to make good comics
5. 3 Nov 2006 20:28 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
You can try, But grouchobeer is a tough nut to crack, you will have to make lots of really good comic's for him to vote 1 if your lucky he will vote more.
6. 3 Nov 2006 20:30 | richard
richard
Not much people can get groucho to vote high
7. 3 Nov 2006 20:31 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
Out of all of gnomz only 3 or 4 people he votes high for.
8. 3 Nov 2006 20:33 | richard
richard
Yup
9. 3 Nov 2006 20:35 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
Try making comics that make sense,and maybe you will get high votes.And I wouldn't say it's about 4 he votes high for,there's:

-Madhatterj
-The Achiever
-Entropic
-Injokester
-captainofo
-FFXKING
-Boinky33
-Sir Sweet
-Pulse
-Rednecks_2_rox
-Myself
-dragonxero
-and many more.
10. 3 Nov 2006 20:38 | CheGuevara
CheGuevara
9. The only help I can give you is;
Talk to grouchobeer and ask him what type of comic's does he like?
Like comedy, etc.
11. 3 Nov 2006 20:38 | richard
richard
He likes politics.
12. 3 Nov 2006 20:42 | doctor_who
doctor_who
I try to use a similar style to grouchobeer in my newest but they're not as good I guess.
13. 3 Nov 2006 20:42 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
Try to make up your own style.
14. 3 Nov 2006 20:43 | richard
richard
13. Take a little bit of everyone's style, and just add your own bit. Sooner or later you'll have your own sense of humor.
15. 3 Nov 2006 20:45 | Allegria
Allegria
15. Good Idea
16. 3 Nov 2006 20:54 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
16. My ideas are always good.
17. 3 Nov 2006 20:59 | Allegria
Allegria
Good.
18. 3 Nov 2006 20:59 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
17. It's ok
18. True!
19. 3 Nov 2006 20:59 | richard
richard
20 thank you
20. 3 Nov 2006 21:07 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
21. Make a comic, save it as a draft, edit it every day and read it everyday, if it doesn't make you laugh every time delete it.
21. 3 Nov 2006 21:09 | richard
richard
Well your ideas i'm not sure of...
How bout take time to think on it and then make it?
22. 3 Nov 2006 21:14 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
24. And thats the truth!
23. 3 Nov 2006 21:30 | richard
richard
26. I really don't know him, for some reason he does but I don't know why because I talk shit!
24. 3 Nov 2006 21:33 | richard
richard
Oh sorry about that.
25. 3 Nov 2006 21:37 | richard
richard
30. Why?
26. 3 Nov 2006 21:40 | richard
richard
A comic, first and foremost, should be self-explanatory. The reader should not have to click on a link to understand the comic. Secondly, it's not enough (usually) to just present the facts from the article in the form of a comic. One has to present the facts and then make some kind of funny or insightful comment about them. For example, if the GOP says X today, one can point out that they said Y yesterday (or last month or 100 years ago.) Or you could show what would ultimately be the logical consequences of X. Or you could take two seemingly unrelated stories, X and Z, and draw some kind of connection between them. This obviously requires a broad and deep knowledge of a lot of different subjects, and a memory for arcane and esoteric facts. It's not for everybody. Comedy is hard, satire
is nearly impossible. Especially these days. In may ways, we are living in the Silver Age of Satire, but the lag time is closing. Yesterday's satire can be tomorrow's headline. I started doing the footnotes because people assumed I was making up the entire thing. But comedy is not built on comedy. It has to have a foundation of some kind of perception of reality. It is OK to imitate (NOT plagiarize) when you start out. Hopefully, one eventually develops one's own style. I started out doing these comics for my own amusement. Then I went on the internets and I found other people similarly bent. The only people who criticized them were people who didn't understand them or thought that I in some way had taken away "their" limelight. It had nothing to do with politics. There was a guy who is as far right as I am left, and we belonged to a mutual admiration society. The point is, only bad writers want you to be bad, to make themselves look better. Good writers want you to be good. I'd love to see the comics page of gnomz filled with comics as good as DOONESBURY or BOONDOCKS. But you don't get good by spamming. You don't get good by making 1000 comics. You get good by making 1 comic 1000 times. That might be an exaggeration, but you've got to work on one 3-panel strip until you think it is absolutely perfect. Then get feedback on it and go back and edit it some more. Eventually you may find through feedback and brutally honest self-examination that you have no real talent for writing comedy. There's no shame in that as long as you don't spam. Comics need informed readers, too.

And I don't just like political comics. I like many different types, really anything well-written and funny. I especially like comics that do things that I find difficult to do, like be very silly (N.B. "Silly" does NOT mean "random".
27. 4 Nov 2006 01:28 - Edited by: grouchobeer | grouchobeer
grouchobeer
Do you mean informed readers as in, say, people who vote ten because they get it?
28. 4 Nov 2006 01:33 | The_Achiever
The_Achiever
33. If people only voted 10 because they got it "Saddam V Ben Laden" would be COTD.

10. Not to brag, but, you forgot to add me XD
29. 4 Nov 2006 02:01 - Edited by: insertnamehere | insertnamehere
insertnamehere
4. FUCK YOU! I MAKE MY OWN OPINIONS MORON! IT DOESNT TAKE A FUCKIN ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT A COMIC SUCKS!
30. 4 Nov 2006 03:38 | jingo
jingo
1: Stop latching onto other peoples perception of you and ignore them. Jsut because people think your spamming, dont be a whiny cunt and post on the forums looking for innocent answers. Suck it the fuck up and move on. You dont have too many friends do you? I bet if you do, they dont like you. You seem to have no social skills at all.

Hey Everyone! Guess What?!!!! Spamming the comic page is when you make a largew amount of comics that are very poor quality!!! ZOMGNOWAI!! YES WAI! U SHUR? SHUR IM SHUR! KENT B! GTFO! IMHO...! BBQ! LOL!

fucking christ, understand that. The difference between grouchobeer and richard is Grouchobeer's comics are well written and funny. Richard's aren't. Sad but true. Richard cant write good comics. Neither can unknownIndividual, Doctor_Who, Vampire_Lord, EmoMan, and all the other people who bitch and whine when their singled out as a bad person.
11, 14: I say it before and I'll say it again. Stop giving advice to people if you quite obviously need some advice yourself.
24: Stfu, you uninformed fuckhead. Its quite obvious you have only a slight grasp on whats going on.
31. 4 Nov 2006 06:37 | pulse
pulse
32. Thanks, from now on I will save my comics as a draft and I will edit it.
36.True, all of it!
32. 4 Nov 2006 15:22 | richard
richard
You guys are obsessed. Who cares if grouchobeer votes 0 on your comics? That means he doesn't like them. He doesn't hate you, he doesn't like your comics. Let me ask you guys something, if every other gnomz member voted 10 on your comic, and groucho voted zero, would you still care as much? Didn't think so. So stop trying to make grouchobeer look like the bad guy.
33. 16 Nov 2006 14:33 | heartagram_666
heartagram_666
38. You actually do have quite a good point
34. 16 Nov 2006 19:07 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
38. Grouchobeer hates me and my comics.
35. 16 Nov 2006 19:12 | richard
richard
40. That's because he just doesn't like you.
You can't have everyone liking you.
36. 16 Nov 2006 19:13 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
dont blame him
37. 16 Nov 2006 19:17 | joedidi
joedidi
I think I'll just lock this....
38. 16 Nov 2006 19:19 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
Okay I can't....
39. 16 Nov 2006 19:19 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
yeh so do i
40. 16 Nov 2006 19:19 | joedidi
joedidi
Of course!!!
Only the person who made the forum can lock it.
41. 16 Nov 2006 19:20 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
41. Wha? I know that he doesn't like me thats what I just said, I know that not many people like me.
42. Don't blame who?
42. 16 Nov 2006 19:20 | richard
richard
grouchobeer for not likeing you
43. 16 Nov 2006 19:21 | joedidi
joedidi
Ok.
46. You are the person who made it.
44. 16 Nov 2006 19:22 | richard
richard
who is
45. 16 Nov 2006 19:22 | joedidi
joedidi
I just can't lock it...
Maybe because it's 13 days old
46. 16 Nov 2006 19:23 | UnknownIndividual
UnknownIndividual
It's a sticky, there is not point locking it.
47. 16 Nov 2006 19:24 | richard
richard
why is that
48. 16 Nov 2006 19:29 | joedidi
joedidi
Cretins. I like that word.
49. 2 Dec 2006 15:22 | Allegria
Allegria
1. Exactly my point. These are the things i've been trying to tell you!
50. 2 Dec 2006 19:01 | Me_A_Piano
Me_A_Piano
UnknownIndividual and Me_A_Piano: Two great comedic minds.
Who can argue with these Gnomz legends?
You two constantly complaining about one of the site's most popular users just sounds like pure jeslousy to me, and nothing more. You want your comics to be more popular? TRY HARDER! Don't go around accusing a popular user of false things, you retards!
51. 2 Dec 2006 19:10 | boinky33
boinky33
6. He is far from a tough nut to crack. No offense to Groucho, but heres an idea to get a decent vote, don't plaigerize, spell correctly, and make the comic make sense.

Tada.

You just scored a 2
52. 3 Dec 2006 06:50 | Cartman69
Cartman69
54. Will you marry me?
53. 5 Dec 2006 20:01 | heartagram_666
heartagram_666
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